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It's been taken over. Now all there is there is a bunch of smacktalkin and jivin where once there was a vibrant community of interesting intelligent people. Why does nobody care and let these people just run ragged on the place ?
Is that a thing with smart people ? Just letting others push them around ?
Thoughts ideas ?
I'd call it a cheap shot to the peeps who shared ideas and support.
99thpercentile.tribe.net/
It just seems like you guys would care because next they'll be over here.
Is that a thing with smart people ? Just letting others push them around ?
Thoughts ideas ?
I'd call it a cheap shot to the peeps who shared ideas and support.
99thpercentile.tribe.net/
It just seems like you guys would care because next they'll be over here.
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Sun, July 29, 2007 - 2:19 AMI tried to do something today...I also posted something for them to thinkabout. My response on something to do with happimess was exactly what youwere saying
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Thu, August 23, 2007 - 7:27 PMElitism is just that... and they might not get it anyway. Good effort but many a mind that tests well does not always live well. Just observing, along with my intentional bad grammar. -
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Fri, August 24, 2007 - 7:22 AMIt's not about test scores.
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Fri, August 24, 2007 - 8:48 AMQuite true. Emotional and social intelligence are just as important. Forums like tribe require a basic level of social intelligence which, "apparently" isn't to be assumed as being present just because one has high scores on an IQ test..
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Sun, July 29, 2007 - 2:02 PMI tried to start an interesting discussion a few months ago, which was okay, if not dazzling. It just seems that no one wants to enjoy intelligent discussion anymore. I check in, but I haven't seen anything worth a response lately.
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Tue, July 31, 2007 - 2:57 AMThere are just too many people in there, it seems to have turned into a popularity tribe instead of what it should be. -
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Re: Why doesn't anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Tue, July 31, 2007 - 11:23 AMWe ought sift out the 1%ers and just ignore them. Oh, wait, there's too many! Kidding. We should ALL come up within a week, something INTELIGENT to discuss, well the active ones. That may get the ball rolling again.
One week smarties!!!!
Oona
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Thu, August 2, 2007 - 3:26 AMYeah, I've always felt that anybody who needs to look to the "99th percentile", or IQ tests, to give them justification of self-value (and their own "brain-power") is missing something in the first place. -
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Sat, August 4, 2007 - 7:56 PMYeah, I've always felt that anybody who needs to look to the "99th percentile", or IQ tests, to give them justification of self-value (and their own "brain-power") is missing something in the first place.>>>>
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Sun, August 5, 2007 - 11:03 AMBecause what matters is ideas, not testing. When I was 14 I knew I was different because I'd begun to form ideas that were different than other people's. Testing wasn't going to tell me who I was or convince me that I was "important". (Not that "being different" is a virtue in itself unless "similarity" is shown to be something incontrovertably negative.) Testing scores cannot, by nature, give a person a brain, ideas, or personality. -
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Mon, August 6, 2007 - 12:08 PMgive a person a brain, ideas, or personality.>>>
No that's true.
And sometimes tests are biased culturally... or in the classic sense of formal invention.
If A person invests themself in this I have no problem with it. It does not mean they are not intelligent or are deficient in some way. I choose to give more credibility to a combination of elements...
innovation, imagination, facilitation, and of course a balance of sources of life/formal invention.
I would use the skill of argument to make the case that intelligence tests do not represent true intelligence across the board...
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Mon, August 6, 2007 - 12:21 PMAmen
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Mon, August 6, 2007 - 10:57 PMYes, exactly. And as far as cultural bias in IQ tests, it's worse than that when you consider that, in actual practice, IQ tests really don't test anything more than how well a person takes an IQ test.
And after all, what does the word "intelligence" mean? In what way are the findings of various IQ tests relavent to a person's role in society? I've argued with people who've made decent points that "intelligence" does matter in society. But in the end I can never buy into it. Personally, I believe that every single person has something to contribute to society.The problem, though, I think is twofold:
1. Most people seem to have been led to believe that they have nothing to offer to society (part of the reason for the endurance of the lower-lower class); and
2. Society picks and chooses, based on all sorts of criteria and often in a rather ruthless manner, who gets to "contribute" and who doesn't. (Contrarily, or perhaps consistently, my observation for a long time has been that the notion that "in America anybody can be what he/she wants to be" is an outrageous and ultimately destructive fallacy. I've had plenty of arguments on this subject as well.)
As far as 'mental deficiencies', I've always been skeptical, for example, of the word "insane", and I don't much like the word since I've always felt it to be misleading. I do use the word "crazy" an awful lot, but I only use it to describe people with interesting and/or bizarre ideas, who're my favorite sort or people. Ultimately, I don't believe that the word "intelligence" does make a reasonable reflection of a person's psychological being. Everyone is wired differently, and this should be celebrated. We should not have a system that segregates people into categories of those who are "valuable" and those who are "not valuable". -
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Tue, August 7, 2007 - 10:10 PMWow, so this is the fun I've been missing out on over at 99th percentile? I wonder what can be done. -
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Wed, August 8, 2007 - 8:28 AMI wonder what can be done.>>>
We can reinvent it... we can make it stronger ! -
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Thu, August 9, 2007 - 1:39 AM>We can reinvent it... we can make it stronger !
Oh, no we can't. It's gone, let her go! -
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Thu, August 9, 2007 - 8:41 AMOh, no we can't. It's gone, let her go!>>>
No can do.
I'd rather go down with the ship. -
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Thu, August 9, 2007 - 8:42 PMBut, this is WHM, so I guess everyone really did abandon 99th percentile? -
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Fri, August 10, 2007 - 7:35 AMBut, this is WHM, so I guess everyone really did abandon 99th percentile?>>>
"As long as the roots are not severed, all is well. And all will be well in the garden. "
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Fri, August 10, 2007 - 10:15 PMPeter Sellers is definitely a well hung mind. -
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Sat, August 11, 2007 - 4:39 PMI could attempt to dissuade people from optimism...
And research a huge number of plausible and at the same time ... historically accurate events... that indicate the futility of continuing in the cause to reinvent the 99th percentile.
But I believe that no matter what the preponderance of evidence is...
the 99th still has redeeming qualities.
It is a resource... that has great potential.
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Wed, August 8, 2007 - 9:51 PMMan, fuck the 99th percentile. What we need is ideas. More ideas, less grading. More education, less rote. More freedom, less hierarchy. -
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Wed, August 8, 2007 - 11:03 PMHierarchies don't kill people...people kill people.
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Wed, August 8, 2007 - 11:28 PMWe don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall
Another Brick in the Wall - Part II
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Thu, August 9, 2007 - 12:11 AM
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Thu, August 9, 2007 - 7:41 AMSorry, you're gonna have to hum Gilmour's guitarwork also, otherwise you get an incomplete grade.
But on a positive note - the penmanship is excellent!
Oh, wait. It's typed.
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Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?
Sun, November 25, 2007 - 9:54 AMAre we so concerned about what those wrapped up in the IQ system think?
Intelligence is subjective, like damn near everything else, and what defines a well hung mind differs depending upon the audience.
I AM the statisticians .01% denial to the degree that I’ve become a cliché of marginalization. Yet there are people WAY farther out than I. I excel in certain tests of intelligence and fail completely at others.
So one tribe went under. What’s new? How does that affect this tribe? How was the 99th percentile ever a real consideration when contemplating what a well hung mind means?