Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?

topic posted Thu, July 26, 2007 - 11:37 AM by  ugh!
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It's been taken over. Now all there is there is a bunch of smacktalkin and jivin where once there was a vibrant community of interesting intelligent people. Why does nobody care and let these people just run ragged on the place ?
Is that a thing with smart people ? Just letting others push them around ?
Thoughts ideas ?
I'd call it a cheap shot to the peeps who shared ideas and support.
99thpercentile.tribe.net/
It just seems like you guys would care because next they'll be over here.
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  • Yeah, I've always felt that anybody who needs to look to the "99th percentile", or IQ tests, to give them justification of self-value (and their own "brain-power") is missing something in the first place.
    • Yeah, I've always felt that anybody who needs to look to the "99th percentile", or IQ tests, to give them justification of self-value (and their own "brain-power") is missing something in the first place.>>>>
      Why ?
      • Because what matters is ideas, not testing. When I was 14 I knew I was different because I'd begun to form ideas that were different than other people's. Testing wasn't going to tell me who I was or convince me that I was "important". (Not that "being different" is a virtue in itself unless "similarity" is shown to be something incontrovertably negative.) Testing scores cannot, by nature, give a person a brain, ideas, or personality.
        • give a person a brain, ideas, or personality.>>>
          No that's true.

          And sometimes tests are biased culturally... or in the classic sense of formal invention.

          If A person invests themself in this I have no problem with it. It does not mean they are not intelligent or are deficient in some way. I choose to give more credibility to a combination of elements...
          innovation, imagination, facilitation, and of course a balance of sources of life/formal invention.

          I would use the skill of argument to make the case that intelligence tests do not represent true intelligence across the board...
          but again belief or disbelief in them does not indicate a persons intelligence.
          • Yes, exactly. And as far as cultural bias in IQ tests, it's worse than that when you consider that, in actual practice, IQ tests really don't test anything more than how well a person takes an IQ test.

            And after all, what does the word "intelligence" mean? In what way are the findings of various IQ tests relavent to a person's role in society? I've argued with people who've made decent points that "intelligence" does matter in society. But in the end I can never buy into it. Personally, I believe that every single person has something to contribute to society.The problem, though, I think is twofold:

            1. Most people seem to have been led to believe that they have nothing to offer to society (part of the reason for the endurance of the lower-lower class); and

            2. Society picks and chooses, based on all sorts of criteria and often in a rather ruthless manner, who gets to "contribute" and who doesn't. (Contrarily, or perhaps consistently, my observation for a long time has been that the notion that "in America anybody can be what he/she wants to be" is an outrageous and ultimately destructive fallacy. I've had plenty of arguments on this subject as well.)

            As far as 'mental deficiencies', I've always been skeptical, for example, of the word "insane", and I don't much like the word since I've always felt it to be misleading. I do use the word "crazy" an awful lot, but I only use it to describe people with interesting and/or bizarre ideas, who're my favorite sort or people. Ultimately, I don't believe that the word "intelligence" does make a reasonable reflection of a person's psychological being. Everyone is wired differently, and this should be celebrated. We should not have a system that segregates people into categories of those who are "valuable" and those who are "not valuable".
  • Re: Why doe'snt anybody do anything about the 99th ?

    Sun, November 25, 2007 - 9:54 AM
    Are we so concerned about what those wrapped up in the IQ system think?
    Intelligence is subjective, like damn near everything else, and what defines a well hung mind differs depending upon the audience.
    I AM the statisticians .01% denial to the degree that I’ve become a cliché of marginalization. Yet there are people WAY farther out than I. I excel in certain tests of intelligence and fail completely at others.
    So one tribe went under. What’s new? How does that affect this tribe? How was the 99th percentile ever a real consideration when contemplating what a well hung mind means?

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